tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11461767.post115658488952089561..comments2023-10-08T16:13:53.045+03:00Comments on The Last Ditch (Archives): Footballer gets criminal record for making sign of the crossTom Painehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01254163054362676487noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11461767.post-1156969813934321452006-08-31T00:30:00.000+04:002006-08-31T00:30:00.000+04:00dearieme, you make my point for me - albeit uninte...dearieme, you make my point for me - albeit unintentionally. If we must take account of the exciteability of Celtic and Rangers fans in deciding whether otherwise unexceptionable behaviours are permitted to others, we are allowing thugs to dictate to us. In a civilised society, we would hold them to our standards, not hold ourselves to theirs.<BR/><BR/>Besides, frankly, who cares how many thugs Tom Painehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01254163054362676487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11461767.post-1156805721491386442006-08-29T02:55:00.000+04:002006-08-29T02:55:00.000+04:00Fair enough, but it has always been potentially il...Fair enough, but it has always been potentially illegal to indulge in behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace, hasn't it? Celtic and Rangers fans are, en masse, excitable scum. That fact forms part of the calculation of the "likely" I presume.deariemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06654632450454559188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11461767.post-1156675425221284642006-08-27T14:43:00.000+04:002006-08-27T14:43:00.000+04:00Thanks for this. I have read Mr Eugenides piece, a...Thanks for this. I have read Mr Eugenides piece, and it was interesting to have an eye-witness account. I can accept that Boruc was wrong - in a non-criminal way - to provoke the crowd. It wasn't responsible. It wasn't polite. But so what?<BR/><BR/>Coming from monocultural Poland, where there are probably more Buddhists than Protestants, he must find the violent hostilities of sectarian Glasgow Tom Painehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01254163054362676487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11461767.post-1156612979120464652006-08-26T21:22:00.000+04:002006-08-26T21:22:00.000+04:00You might view it differently if you check with Mr...You might view it differently if you check with Mr Eugenides, an eye-witness to events.deariemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06654632450454559188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11461767.post-1156588860294770802006-08-26T14:41:00.000+04:002006-08-26T14:41:00.000+04:00Tom, In general terms I am fully in agreement with...Tom, <BR/><BR/>In general terms I am fully in agreement with your viewpoint on Nu Labour's quasi-fascist assault on civil liberties, and the way in which Christianity is discriminated against in relation to minority religions in this country in the name of political correctness.<BR/><BR/>However I must say that in my opnion you have this incident all wrong, or at least out of context. I have Mr Eugenideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555302880124512593noreply@blogger.com